(Breather) After learning how to strike a delicate balance between setting and pursuing meaningful tangible goals while adopting a healthy, process-oriented mindset, we cut to the chase with 5 tips that will help you quickly and efficiently reduce excess body fat.
Well, it could be six tips with the first one being don’t get started down the slippery slope in the first place! Starting out, it’s important to accept the idea that losing fat is all about lowering insulin production, instead of the flawed and dated concept of eating fewer calories and burning more calories. This has now been scientifically proven to be ineffective per the compensation theory. Here are the five things that helped me, that I detail on this show:
- 12 noon: I re-established a firm rule of no caloric intake till 12 noon. This helps you bank more fasting hours, but also establishes structure, discipline, and a greater appreciation for meals.
- Carnivore-ish: Naturally low carb/low insulin, incredibly high satiety and nutrient density, and excellent for fat reduction. Also, any restrictive diet helps you eat less food, less often, and eliminates decision fatigue. Listen to my shows with Dr. Paul Saladino (#1 and #2) and Dr. Shawn Baker to learn more about the carnivore diet.
- Sprinting and Jumping: My properly conducted sprinting and high jump workouts send a powerful genetic signal to reduce fat, because the penalty for carrying extra weight is so severe in these activities (unlike shuffling along for a marathon.) Make sure your high intensity sessions are brief and explosive and not prolonged and exhausting, or you will trigger compensation theory dynamics.
- Cold therapy: I believe my morning routine of 4-6 minutes in 34-38F water accelerated fat metabolism because I often experienced a spike in hunger afterward. Since it was way before noon, I ignored it and it would pass in 20 minutes. I have to think this kicked me into accelerated fat burning mode, something emerging research is suggesting. More on this topic soon!
- Mindful eating: Eat in a calm setting at a relaxed pace. Notice the point at which you are satisfied instead of mindlessly chomping on while you watch TV. If you are going to indulge/celebrate, do so with full attention and appreciation instead of guilt.
Hopefully these tips, whether applied exactly or just honored in spirit, will help you on your journey. Let us know if you have questions, comments, feedback by emailing email@example.com.
It will be helpful to narrow the focus to lowering insulin production as the gateway to dropping excess body fat. [05:11]
You must get your mindset completely away from “calories in and calories out!” [06:20]
Effortless maintenance of ideal body composition comes when you produce an optimally minimal amount of insulin over the course of your lifetime. [09:05]
Fasting is one way to lower insulin. [10:36]
The other way is to reduce intake of dietary carbohydrates. [11:34]
Keto ice cream is now in the stores. [15:48]
As individuals, when fasting, there are various ideas about when it works best. [17:47]
Brad talks about the benefits of the carnivore eating pattern. [19:39]
The most nutrient dense foods are grass fed, pasture raised meats. [23:40]
Sprinting, jumping, and explosive movements send a profound signal to your genes and hormones to drop excess body fat. [26:20]
Cold therapy has a profound effect on the genetic signaling for fat reduction. [29:44]
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Okay. Listeners time for part two, Yeah, hopefully you listened to the first part of the show, how to lose eight pounds of body fat in six weeks. What an exciting title let’s get into it. And then I made you wait a whole week to get your mind, right? Your motivations, the delicate balance between yourself identity and having accountability and focus and discipline to get those goals done. Okay. So now let’s go to the action plan. I think it will be helpful to narrow the focus to lowering insulin production as the gateway to dropping excess body fat . Mark Sisson.and I have been researching this topic intently as we’re working on a new book for releasing the fall. Title is Two Meals a Day. Yeah, simple as that, it’s the diet book to end all diet books just eat less frequently and eat good food and your problems are solved. Uh, but the compelling research suggests that it’s all about insulin when it comes to body composition, as opposed to the flawed and dated model of calories in and calories out.
And a great book that got extremely detailed and scientific about this topic was Jason Fung’s. The Obesity Code. So Dr. Jason Fung based in Toronto Canada, uh, has conducted a lot of research references, a lot of research revealing that we have assorted compensatory mechanisms that keep us at, or near this metabolic setpoint that you’ve heard about for so long. The set point is legit, man. So when you, for example, reduce your caloric intake, devotedly and start burning more calories like crazy during an exercise routine, it doesn’t really help reduce excess body fat in the manner that we seem to believe. Why, because the body has ways to compensate. So if you’re burning calories like crazy and workouts, and you’re not eating enough calories, guess what happens? That’s right. Your metabolic rate slows down. You conserve energy because the body does not like to be starved and pushed to extreme exercise goals.
Interestingly, some other research cited that if you purposely consume calories, maybe exercise, less, whatever, just eat more calories than you burn every day. Your body has a sorted compensatory mechanisms. And the kick in that make you more active and increase your calorie burning at rest. There’s something called the thermic effect of food whereby around five to 10% of all the calories you consume are devoted to digesting and assimilating those calories with protein, the numbers up at 25%. So basically a quarter of all the protein calories you consume. If you have four eggs, one of those eggs is being devoted. The energy from the egg is devoted to processing the calories that came from the other three eggs, pretty trippy. So you got to get your mindset completely away from calories in calories out. Of course, it’s extremely important to remain active and, and burn calories and do workouts and get in shape.
But it’s not a direct association that we’ve long thought it was. That’s why movement is so important because movement facilitates fat burning while stillness, facilitates sugar cravings and fat storage, independent of whatever calories you consumed or didn’t consume. So the weight loss challenge is all about hormone optimization, namely reducing insulin production in the diet, rather than eating fewer calories and burning more calories, you will get at best, a temporary result from the old way and a longterm permanent result.
Effortless maintenance of ideal body composition comes when you produce an optimally minimal amount of insulin over the course of your lifetime. Oh, not only will it help you look good and get your six pack, hanging there permanently, but it will also protect you from the most prominent disease patterns in modern society. That would be Type 2 diabetes, okay. Obesity, cancer, and cognitive decline that is now being strongly associated, increasingly associated with excess sugar consumption, excess insulin production and the oxidation and inflammation promoted by that dietary pattern.
In fact, uh, Dr. Suzanne Delemonte, I believe is the first one to coin this clever term, but cognitive disease, the pattern Alzheimer’s and related disease are now being nicknamed Type 3 diabetes because these diseases are characterized right? Dysfunctional glucose metabolism in the brain. Yes. That is supposed to be some scary shit to think about. So your sugar habit, your sugar fix is not only making you fat, but it’s also messing with your brain. And over time, uh, depriving the brain of oxygen, creating inflammation, as opposed to a healthy brain, which can also burn ketones, the cleanest burning fuel known to mankind and not desperately reliant on glucose for all the energy needs because you become fat adapted in your diet.
Okay. So we’re going to, we’re going to narrow our focus into lowering insulin and how do you lower insulin? Well, there’s two main ways fasting, right? Banking, many hours in a fasted state. If you’re fasted, you’re not producing insulin. If you eat anything, you start to produce insulin. Dr. Cate Shanahan says even consuming fat causes an insulin response, consuming protein is known to cause a strong insulin response. It’s just that protein also, uh, spikes the counterregulatory hormone of glucagon. So it doesn’t have that, uh, spike of insulin, uh, like carbohydrate does. And of course, carbohydrates spike insulin and remove the energy from your bloodstream. So you get an insulin crash, unlike protein, which is more energy balanced, but the idea of lowering insulin is best achieved through long periods in a fasted state.
And then the secondary way is to reduce intake of dietary carbohydrates. Optimizing your carb intake exactly has so many different variables. And there’s so much talk about this. You can spend all day on YouTube or get stacks of books talking about this. But in general, what we want to do is cut out all forms of processed carbohydrates that are nutrient deficient, that spike insulin more quickly than a complex carbohydrate, for example. And then with the incidental carbs that we consume, if we’re talking in the context of trying to reduce excess body fat, you want to cut back on all manner of dietary carbohydrates until you can get that weight off. That is the most direct path is more fasting and more carbohydrate restriction until you optimize your body composition. Okay. So how do you do this? In my case, I put some rules and systems and guidelines into place to set me up for success rather than having this complete freedom and unbridled access to food nonstop, especially people during quarantine time where they’re spending time at home, rather than driving around or in the office or some environment where it’s a less easy access to food.
Almost all of us for many months have had a refrigerator within a ten second stroll from wherever we’re working. And so things get a little dicey when you have that constant access. So the first rule I established in this quest to drop the excess body fat that had crept on very quickly was no calorie consumption until 12 noon. So that’s getting into the often discussed 16, eight eating pattern that is a 16 hour period of fasting every single day, uh, followed by this window opening where you’re allowed to consume calories. And I think some people misinterpret this to think that, uh, during the eight hour window, so let’s say 12 noon, my starting 0.2 8:00 PM, that you’re allowed to just eat throughout that time. The idea here is to eliminate snacking. We make a huge important point about that in Two Meals a Day as a centerpiece of your quest to drop excess body fat because snacking interrupts fat burning on the spot.
As soon as you snack on anything, again, even a high fat snack, but especially a high carbohydrate snack, even a high protein snack is going to spike insulin. It’s going to stop fat burning, stop body fat burning. And you’re going to burn the calories that you consumed one way or the other. So snacking seems harmless. A lot of people even suggest that you snack to keep your energy level steady, but it’s been completely refuted now by the latest greatest and the science of insulin being the centerpiece of body composition. So we want to stay away from snacking at all costs. And the way to do that is to eat a delicious, highly satisfying nutrient dense meals. So when you can last until 12 noon before you consume any calories, assuming you finish eating at a reasonable time the previous night, you have banked a ton of hours in a fasted state.
You’ve got your insulin nice and low and put in a lot of deposits into the, in your quest to drop excess body fat. If you want to disagree on the validity of Keto or you have your needs for exercise and recovery, and you’re claiming that you need your carbs. Fung agrees with this too, and stated it pretty clearly in his book. Mark Sisson agrees with this, that your choice of a macronutrient ratios in the meal is you’re going to have a little bit of leeway there. If you can bank a lot of hours in a fasted state. Maybe you can go enjoy that sweet potato or whatever it is you’re deciding to eat that has a measurable amount of carbs, as opposed to this strict Keto pattern that we’re all familiar with, where you’re only allowed 50 grams per day. So if you want to make a comparison here between someone who’s fasting for 16 hours a day versus a misguided Keto enthusiast who is stuffing their face with fat all day long from the moment they wake up until the moment they go to sleep with whatever key to approve snacks,
Oh, the Keto ice cream. Have you seen that in the store? I guess I’m, uh, living in a closet. In fact, I am spending many hours a day in a closet, uh, but I finally tried some of this stuff and it was pretty darn good, man. So there’s a few brands out there. And then I noticed when I went back to get some more at the store that there’s a huge selection of this Keto approved ice cream. I would definitely classify this as a treat, regardless of what they say on the label about net carbs. Uh, you’re talking about something that has the potential to spike insulin and interfere with your fat reduction goals. But if you’re going to choose a treat and an indulgence, Hey, what a great idea to have something that’s going to have a lower glycaemic lower insulin response. So the Keto ice cream seem like a pretty legit choice, pretty, pretty highly ranked compared to let’s say a regular ice cream like Ben and Jerry’s which shockingly many of their flavors have a refined industrial seed oils contained in the ingredient list.
Wow. Okay. So the 12 noon, uh, is the big one for me anyway, not only because it sets me up for long periods of fasting and lowering insulin production, but also because of what it represents, which is putting some rules and guidelines into place where I have to say no to myself, if I’m thinking about food in the morning and that might not work for everybody. And I know there’s a lot of rationale to, uh, have a nice, delicious nutrient dense breakfast in the morning. A lot of people say that if you have thyroid adrenal issues, things of that nature, that fasting is going to be an extra stressor that could put you over the edge from other stress factors in your life, especially when you’re weighing in with exercise. But, uh, we feel like, uh, everyone should be able to do this, uh, at least, you know, putting in a nice window of time where you’re not eating and you’re able to sustain yourself with, uh, stored energy sources, ketones stored body fat stored glycogen.
Now, for example, if you wanted to try something like a hearty morning breakfast and then no snacking and no meals until evening time, uh, like Brian McAndrew, uh, Primal Blueprint colleague, that’s also an impressive metabolic feat. Even know the breakfast to dinner window is not as long as the 16 hour window overnight. Guess what? Most of that time you’re sleeping and not burning hardly any calories. So it’s not a huge challenge to fast overnight, but operating off your breakfast meal for what 10 or 12 hours between breakfast and dinner, that’s a pretty good accomplishment. That’s a demonstration of metabolic flexibility. So whatever works for you, just take the spirit of the challenge that I put into place rules and guidelines. Mine happens to be no calories until 12 noon and this kick-starts and inherent level of discipline and structure to my daily routine and especially increases my appreciation of that eventual first meal that I eat because I had to wait for it.
And you know, what also happens frequently is when it comes time around 12 noon, right? The, uh, the window opens, but I might be busy. I might be doing a podcast. I might be, uh, not starving at that exact moment when the clock strikes 12. So in many occasions I have an even longer fasting period where it might’ve been broken at 11:00 AM because I had a break in my schedule, or I was starting to think about food or something smelled good. Right? And so I would just go for it, but having that rule in place, and then leveraging that at times to have an even longer fasting period, including a handful of 24 hour fasting periods, which I’m not inclined to do very much because of my training regimen, but sometimes they happen naturally because, you know, it’s only a few more hours going after if you make it to 12 noon.
Okay. The next piece of the puzzle for me is my fascination with this carnivore ish, eating pattern, this nose to tail strategy of emphasizing the most nutrient dense foods on earth, which are the animal foods. And also calling into question the long time shared assumption by just about everyone that vegetables, plants should form the centerpiece of your diet. And if you listen to my shows with Dr. Shawn Baker and Dr. Paul Saladino, I feel like they make a ton of sense that the plants are not necessary for survival, and they can possibly cause problems in sensitive people. We already know about the many intolerances in the lectins, glutens and phytates in the breads and the legumes, uh, the grain products that have high levels of gluten and other offensive agents that can promote leaky gut syndrome. And then with the leafy greens and the things that we lot is healthy.
Oh my gosh, for sensitive people, they can be big trouble. Look no further than the wonderful website called MeatRx.com operated by Dr. Shawn Baker and the success stories on there are absolutely stunning where people have tried everything. And when they excluded plants from their diet, it allowed their gut dysfunction to heal. And these longterm chronic autoimmune and inflammatory conditions went away. So if you have a chronic immune auto immune or inflammatory condition that has not responded to traditional therapies, a restriction diet, where you exclude all forms of plants, because all plants have anti-nutrients or antigens in them that are, uh, in there to ward off predators to protect the plant from getting eaten. And these are highly offensive to humans. That’s why we soak sprout ferment and cook our plants rather than just eat everything raw because in many cases, raw plants are poisonous, right? And cooking makes plants vastly easier to digest.
So since I’ve been exposed to the leaders in this movement, I’ve got not gone out of my way to go eat piles of plants every day, like I did for a long time. And again, I wouldn’t call myself a super sensitive person, uh, and in terms of, uh, my reactivity to plants, uh, but I will report, and this is kind of funny, I’m embarrassed to say, especially cause I have a YouTube video about Brad Kern, super nutrition, green smoothie, uh, putting all this stuff in there in the morning, including big piles of raw produce, uh, raw kale, celery, beets whatever’s going in there, uh, raw being much more difficult to digest than plants in their cooked form. And I remember getting a bloated stomach just about every time I sucked down my super nutrition green smoothie, and I was talking to Christopher Smith about this.
He’s also been a guest on the podcast, high performing athlete, the greatest speed golfer of all time, and he reported the same thing that he gets a bloated stomach after preparing this delicious nutrient dense smoothie with all the supplement powders and things in there. And he said, you know, it’s so healthy that it’s worth it. And I’m like, yeah, I guess so. And then when you think about it more, um, if something super healthy, why should it be blowing your stomach up to twice the normal size and creating transient pain, gas, bloating, digestion difficulties. So I had to second guess that something that you’re consuming that’s causing your stomach to blow up may not be all that’s advertised in terms of a health essential practice. So then you pair that insight with the, uh, the great idea that fasting is when the human body is at its peak function in every way, uh, the greatest, most profound anti-inflammatory response or antioxidant response that you can get from your diet is to not eat.
It blows away the most exotic green smoothie or super food you can consume. So when you’re in a fasted state, your body is working better than ever. And so whatever health conditions you have, health concerns, especially trying to drop excess body fat, right? The most direct path there is fasting. And guess what we can survive. We can do really well in a fasted state. And then when you eat, you want to have maximum nutrient density in your food choices. And if you look at the list of most nutrient dense foods. We’re talking about the healthy sourced animal products, right? Grass fed pasture raised the clean animal foods rather than the nasty stuff, which has so many objections. And I wholeheartedly support all the people that are, uh, arguing against eating this mainstream, uh, meat and dairy and other food products. So when you are eating in a credible-ish pattern, you are by definition, uh, excluding, uh, all of the prominent carbohydrate sources in the diet, right?
And so you’re kind of eating in this low carb high satiety pattern because of the high protein content and animal foods, protein delivering the most satiety fat in a second position, and then have carbs delivering the least satiety and actually a compensatory response of wanting to eat more carbs when you eat some, that’s why they have the, uh, the slogans on the potato chips, right? Can eat just one. Or once you went to a pop, you can’t stop. That was the Pringles, uh, ad slogan, uh, what a disgrace that we had to watch that stuff on TV without the fast forward button back in the day. Huh? So, uh, the carnivore-ish pattern I tout, regardless of all other things, and however you feel about the different matters that I brought up about plant reactivity and so forth, you are restricting your dietary options, and by doing so you get an automatic boost for your fat reduction goals.
The fact that I don’t have as much dietary variety and don’t have as much free choice, puts me in a different realm where it’s much easier to just adhere to the pattern and not have to, uh, risk, uh, overconsumption of calories, because I got 20 different things I can eat. When I open up the refrigerator door, you get what I mean, you naturally consume fewer calories when you adopt any restrictive diet. And that’s a lot of the reason for people to celebrate the success of let’s say a vegan diet in the short term, they’re going to lose weight and they’re going to feel better because they’re restricting a lot of offensive foods.
Number three, sprinting, jumping, explosive, short duration, high intensity performance sends a profound signal to your genes and hormones to drop excess body fat because the penalty for carrying excess body fat through a sprint, or when you’re trying to jump over a bar is extreme. In contrast, when you’re performing long distance endurance activity, fat burning activities, the penalty for carrying excess body fat for shuffling through a marathon in five hours, with 20 pounds of extra body fat, the penalty is not that extreme because you’re not moving very fast, but in contrast, Oh my gosh,. Trying to jump up off the ground and dunk a basketball, jump over the high jump bar or sprint the hundred meters. There’s a reason why you don’t see any fat sprinters, fat, high jumpers or fat elite level basketball players, because there’s too much demand on the body. And when you train, of course, your body responds with adaptive, adaptive response to training, right? You sprint and sprint and sprint, you get better and better at it. And as you ask your body over and over to perform these explosive efforts, you’re going to trigger fat reduction, uh, in a realm aside from your caloric intake, caloric expenditure, right?
It’s genetic signaling to the body. So when I started performing my sprint workouts correctly, uh, avoiding that chronic fight or flight stimulation that happened when my rest periods were too short and I was pushing my body too hard and then feeling trashed and exhausted afterward that’s when you kick into these compensatory mechanisms, the compensation theory of exercise whereby when you do an exhausting depleting workout, your body responds with a corresponding increase in caloric intake over the course of the day, as well as a propensity to be lazier and to burn fewer calories. This is not only a conscious, but also on a subconscious level. Your body just works a little more slowly. You’re a little lazier. You’re not tapping your leg under your desk. You get up to go get another pad of PostIt notes and you’re moving a little slower than you otherwise would have if you hadn’t done that crazy workout in the morning.
So by doing a properly conducted sprint workout, you send those signals to your genes to drop excess body fat, but you don’t have that compensatory response from an exhaustive workout because you rested properly. You do the sprinting or the jumping workouts infrequently. I’m trying to work up, believe it or not to two days a week. And that’s a really ambitious schedule to try and adhere to. And I don’t make it every week, but that seems like nothing to some people conditioned to believe that you should go out and push and challenge your body day after day after day. But to do it right that’s a whole other realm. So adding some brief, explosive high intensity workouts with plenty of rest and recovery between the workouts and also, uh, structuring the workout properly. And you can listen to my shows on sprinting and especially the Dr. Craig Marker material, uh, contrasting hit versus hurt high intensity interval training versus the preferred high intensity repeat training, which is less stressful and depleting.
Okay. So that’s three, the 12 noon rule, the carnivores eating pattern, the introduction of properly conducted sprinting and jumping workouts, and then the magic of the cold plunge. And, you know, I got a whole show about that. I’m fascinated by it. I’m doing more research. I’m working on a book right now about how to get started in cold therapy, but I do believe it has a profound effect on the genetic signaling for fat reduction. And the research supports this, that when you expose yourself to cold, obviously water being a much better, medium than air because the greater molecular density of water drains body heat 25 times faster than air, but exposing yourself to cold temperatures, ambient temperatures can also work, but this therapeutic cold plunge, which takes only a few minutes, has a profound influence on your body composition. So my morning routine, which I’ve worked up to spending four or five or six minutes in water temperature that I regulate, uh, around 36 to 38 degrees Fahrenheit has been a great boost for fat metabolism. Now here’s the caveat that’s not discussed enough because anytime you read about cold exposure,
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You’ll Google it. And you’ll be regaled by the stories of how, uh, exposing yourself to cold water activates the special brown fat, the thermic, uh, the thermic, uh, properties of Brown fat increase, your metabolic rate, you burn more fat and you lose weight. And it’s awesome, but here’s the other thing that’s obvious and also validated by science that exposure to cold temperatures causes a spike in appetite because if you lower your body temperature, your body starts working hard to rewarm to return to homeostasis. I don’t know if you can reference a hard day of skiing or chopping wood in the snow and then coming in and just inhaling any food near you, uh, because of the physical exertion combined with the cold exposure. So what we have to do is kind of short circuit, this connection, this compensation theory, insight that exposing yourself to cold increases your appetite. What I noticed from my devotion to jumping in the cold tub is that anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour after my session, I will experience a reliable spike in appetite.
And it is a growling of my stomach, thanks to the prominent hunger hormone ghrelin, G H R E L I N, dr. Kate made that up. She says, ghrelin gets your stomach growling. And that’s how you can remember the term for the prominent hunger hormone. So what you have to do basically is ignore this as fight through this hunger spike in the aftermath of your cold exposure and by doing so, you up-regulate fat burning with great intensity, right? So the hunger spike is there to prompt you to eat and genetically programmed survival mechanism. Usually when our stomach starts growling, we are going to drop whatever we’re doing and go look for food. Now, if you refuse to do so, if you ain’t getting any food and your brain learns that you’re not going to be getting any food anytime soon, what happens is it shifts over into a ketone production, right, for the brain and also accelerated fat metabolism for the body.
All right. So the cold plunge, and, uh, I’m not gonna have you spend 500 bucks for a chest freezer just yet, but if you want to start your day with a cold shower in the interest of dropping excess body fat, it can be a really nice trigger unless you’re in Phoenix in the summer. And the water’s coming out of the, uh, of the showerhead at 78 degrees. Uh, for most people, most times of the year, you can get a authentic cold exposure from trying a cold shower, and then you’re going to love it so much that you’ll be compelled to upgrade to let’s say, trying out an ice bath and then someday getting the ultimate cold therapy home therapy standard of the chest freezer.
So finally, I’m going to put the last thing on the list is this idea of eating your meals mindfully and enjoying and appreciating every bite of food that goes down the mouth and noticing carefully when you have achieved, say tidy, when you have achieved satisfaction and, uh, ceasing eating after that, just getting just the food you need to feel great and not over stuffing, just because that’s habit or that’s because how much was on your plate, or because you’re not mindful, you’re busy watching a television show or reading a magazine or engaged in conversation or sitting there at your work desk, trying to wolf down the food really quickly to the point that the satiety signal from your stomach is not getting to your brain in time.
And you’re still eating even after you’re full. So having that enjoyable, low stress, relaxing meal environment, where you’re eating just as much as you need to feel satisfied at every meal, and then going on about your day and allowing those fasted hours to accumulate, it should be quick results. If you’ve done the hard work to become metabolically, flexible, to be able to fast comfortably rather than struggle and suffer. So there you go. How about that for a package in summary waiting till 12 noon, uh, following a carnivores pattern, uh, doing the sprint workouts properly, doing the morning, cold plunge and eating mindfully. Those factors conspired to help me get that excess weight off. And I’m down eight pounds of body fat in six weeks. And boy from the experience reliving it in 2019 and 2020, I’m hopefully setting a goal now to not drift and not have to worry about implementing this methodical approach to getting the fat off that never should have got there in the first place. But Hey, you know, that’s how life works. Sometimes I hope this, these two shows have been of value to you and good luck go for it.
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